minimalist
11-12 02:59 PM
Yes. Its up to the VO to grant the period of stay. You could enter US even with one day left on the visa. Once you are on US soil, its I-94 that determines the duration of your stay (which has expiry date).
IMHO, that's a big risk as you will never know if the IO just gives for a month, 2 months or 6 months.
There is the risk of getting stuck in security processing if you apply for another visa as shared by another member.
For your friend's case s/he needs to weigh these risks and see which one s/he can take.
IMHO, that's a big risk as you will never know if the IO just gives for a month, 2 months or 6 months.
There is the risk of getting stuck in security processing if you apply for another visa as shared by another member.
For your friend's case s/he needs to weigh these risks and see which one s/he can take.
Saralayar
05-21 07:59 PM
Inspite of telling my lawyer she did the mistake of sending my EAD and AP before 120 day period. EAD filed 121 days prior and AP filed 148 days prior. I have gotten the receipts of both but AP status says that they have requested more information/evidence. I am wondering what additional information they need. Anyone else in this situation ?
Is it 120 business days or just week days?
Is it 120 business days or just week days?
ski_dude12
12-02 03:46 PM
First 485 for both of us.
Hinglish
03-05 12:18 PM
My wife had Henna on her hand when she went for her FP. The officer asked her did not take her finger prints and asked her to send that letter to their office by mail for re-scheduling the appointment. She sent the letter and got another appointment within 40 days. No problems in the second appearance.
That is stupid .... how does having henna affect fingerprints???
I think that officer didnt have any common sense left .... but then who are we to argue
That is stupid .... how does having henna affect fingerprints???
I think that officer didnt have any common sense left .... but then who are we to argue
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hariswaminathan
11-20 04:06 PM
1) No.
2) Other then an Emergency you can't expedite.
3) If you are currently on H1, then she can enter on H4.
4) Same answer as above. You can enter on AP, and if you continue to maintain H1 status, then she can enter on H4.
1) You CAN use the AP that is approved while you are out. However someone needs to courier the document to you before you can enter with it. I am doing the same thing with my Law Firm. You do not need the AP in hand to leave the US.
2) Other then an Emergency you can't expedite.
3) If you are currently on H1, then she can enter on H4.
4) Same answer as above. You can enter on AP, and if you continue to maintain H1 status, then she can enter on H4.
1) You CAN use the AP that is approved while you are out. However someone needs to courier the document to you before you can enter with it. I am doing the same thing with my Law Firm. You do not need the AP in hand to leave the US.
simple1
06-03 02:00 PM
fool's post. yes you are.
The H1B are positioned better as they can relocate quickly. Most of USC and GC dont relocate due to housing ownership. While H1B homeownership is low.
I personally know atleast 20+ USC not willing to move to greener grounds just because they have house.
Housing did create a biased USC/GC jobseeker.
06/03/2009: Increasingly Hostile Environment in the U. S. Against H-1B Foreign Workers
H-1B foreign worker visa program has been facing hostility all over lately. Introduction of H-1B restriction bill in the Congress is just one environment that has been widely publicized. However, at the administrative level, the H-1B visa program has been going through a number of problems without much publicity. For Fiscal Year 2010 H-1B program, unlike previous years, there is a short of H-1B petitions to fill the annual cap this year two months after the agency first started taking in the petitions beginning from April 1, 2009. On the surface, the workloads of the new H-1B petitions have been substantially reduced for the agency, but in reality, the employers that filed the new H-1B petitions have been facing tons of boiler plate Request for Evidence demanding tons of documents over and over causing tremendous delays in adjudication of the petitions. The hostile environment does not end with the new H-1B petitions. Report indicates that the H-1B workers are increasingly stranded abroad not being able to obtain the visa stamp abroad pending so-called protracted security checks and consequently not being able to return to the U.S. to resume employment. Should this environment continue, the business environment for the U.S. businesses will continuously deteriorate and the businesses will continuously suffer unless they take out their businesses and jobs abroad to meet the needed workforces in order to stay in business in increasingly competitive global economy. Nothing will be able to stop the offshore outsourcing of the U.S. businesses. This is something the Obama Administration should think about very quick before too late.
source:http://immigration-law.com/
Donot be suprised to expect more, one of my friends at IBM got letter (from IBM attorney) asking to state client location etc..I think it could be based on any new USCIS H1B rules or verification ??
How things change over time..1999 and 2009 opposite in almost most ways. job offers, rates, hostility, length of job contracts etc
The H1B are positioned better as they can relocate quickly. Most of USC and GC dont relocate due to housing ownership. While H1B homeownership is low.
I personally know atleast 20+ USC not willing to move to greener grounds just because they have house.
Housing did create a biased USC/GC jobseeker.
06/03/2009: Increasingly Hostile Environment in the U. S. Against H-1B Foreign Workers
H-1B foreign worker visa program has been facing hostility all over lately. Introduction of H-1B restriction bill in the Congress is just one environment that has been widely publicized. However, at the administrative level, the H-1B visa program has been going through a number of problems without much publicity. For Fiscal Year 2010 H-1B program, unlike previous years, there is a short of H-1B petitions to fill the annual cap this year two months after the agency first started taking in the petitions beginning from April 1, 2009. On the surface, the workloads of the new H-1B petitions have been substantially reduced for the agency, but in reality, the employers that filed the new H-1B petitions have been facing tons of boiler plate Request for Evidence demanding tons of documents over and over causing tremendous delays in adjudication of the petitions. The hostile environment does not end with the new H-1B petitions. Report indicates that the H-1B workers are increasingly stranded abroad not being able to obtain the visa stamp abroad pending so-called protracted security checks and consequently not being able to return to the U.S. to resume employment. Should this environment continue, the business environment for the U.S. businesses will continuously deteriorate and the businesses will continuously suffer unless they take out their businesses and jobs abroad to meet the needed workforces in order to stay in business in increasingly competitive global economy. Nothing will be able to stop the offshore outsourcing of the U.S. businesses. This is something the Obama Administration should think about very quick before too late.
source:http://immigration-law.com/
Donot be suprised to expect more, one of my friends at IBM got letter (from IBM attorney) asking to state client location etc..I think it could be based on any new USCIS H1B rules or verification ??
How things change over time..1999 and 2009 opposite in almost most ways. job offers, rates, hostility, length of job contracts etc
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eb3_nepa
07-18 10:52 AM
eb3,
with all due respect, I really doubt if this is the bet way to get people to donate. Calling people cheap is not a nice thing and generally not recommended.
I know your intentions are good and ...
Howzzat there is a CLEAR clause in that statement
"If we cannot even contribute $10 a month". There is a clear IF in that statement. And yes after all that IV has done and all the advantage IV members have obtained FREE OF COST just by sitting on the fence (on their behinds), while the core team, who by the way have full time jobs AND families, slogged MORE THAN FULL TIME to get IV's very first goal to be achieved, THEN I say I am FULLY JUSTIFIED in calling those people CHEAP.
with all due respect, I really doubt if this is the bet way to get people to donate. Calling people cheap is not a nice thing and generally not recommended.
I know your intentions are good and ...
Howzzat there is a CLEAR clause in that statement
"If we cannot even contribute $10 a month". There is a clear IF in that statement. And yes after all that IV has done and all the advantage IV members have obtained FREE OF COST just by sitting on the fence (on their behinds), while the core team, who by the way have full time jobs AND families, slogged MORE THAN FULL TIME to get IV's very first goal to be achieved, THEN I say I am FULLY JUSTIFIED in calling those people CHEAP.
lsuk
03-16 09:38 AM
Hi, you may want to check out attorney Ksenija Kokanovic at www.visaimmigrate.com. I can definitely recommend her as she helped me with my case.
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cygent
04-03 04:03 AM
It is not that I want to ask many questions.
It is just that I want to prepare for the consequences. Also, this information could be important to somebody else in the future, I am not thinking just about myself, so please understand & respect that.
Thanks for your help!
It is just that I want to prepare for the consequences. Also, this information could be important to somebody else in the future, I am not thinking just about myself, so please understand & respect that.
Thanks for your help!
ns007
02-13 12:40 PM
Could someone please explain what are the implication of taking big promotion (example: Consultant to Manager) when
1. Labor is pending
2. Labor is clear; but I-140 pending
3. I-140 clear; but I-485 pending for less than 6 months
4. I-140 clear; but I 485 pending for more than 6 months
thanks,
NS
1. Labor is pending
2. Labor is clear; but I-140 pending
3. I-140 clear; but I-485 pending for less than 6 months
4. I-140 clear; but I 485 pending for more than 6 months
thanks,
NS
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sreekanth
10-02 07:01 PM
I was also lucky to meet one of their executive editors to whom I explained the issues posed by retrogression. He was very supportive but informed that he has been hearing from the other side as well.( I guess from NumbersUSA).
We too should be pro-active in campaigning to media about our valid cause.
I just sent the following E-mail to the Information Week Editors.
Sub:Your help requested for Skilled IT wokers to get their greencards
Dear Mr.McGee,
I had a chance to read your article about the issues
faced due to the H1B caps and the Greencard
Retrogression.("Time Is Running Out For H-1B Visa Cap
To Be Raised--Or Is It?"-Information
Week,Dt:06-Sep-06)
Thanks much for your insight about the SKILL bill.
It would be of great help if you could write more
Articles about the retrogression issues. Thousands of
unfortunate skilled workers like me have been caught
in the 'Retrogression' black hole and there is no
relief is visible in any near future.I have been
waiting for more than 5 years for my green card in
vain. We are in a state of limbo and are almost
similar to bonded laborers since our professional
mobility is very much limited.
People talk so much about the CIR and Illegal aliens
but very few people even know about the plight of the
LEGAL SKILLED workers.The retrogression has not only
affected my immediate future but it has also
negatively impacted the future of family/kids as well.
Our final hope is residing on the SKILL Bill and we
pray that it will be some how be passed in the
lame-duck session as you mentioned in your article.
Hundreds of Skilled workers like me have given up hope
already and are returning to their countries or are
looking for opportunities in other countries like
Canada etc. This also is having a significant negative
impact on US economy.
Just to give an example: Atleast 100,000 Skilled
workers are holding off the decision to buy a house
since they are not sure about their future here in US.
This amounts approximately to $30,000,000,000 (100000
X $300,000) inflow of money that could give a big
boost to the declining US Housing market.
It is sad to see that so many experienced LEGAL people
leaving this country due to immigration caps.
I kindly request you to publish a cover story on this
serious issue before the lame-duck session. I am sure
your words will have a big impact on the CEO's and
CIO's who in turn can lobby among the senators for our
cause.
Thanks again for your help so far.
Regards,
Sreekanth
We too should be pro-active in campaigning to media about our valid cause.
I just sent the following E-mail to the Information Week Editors.
Sub:Your help requested for Skilled IT wokers to get their greencards
Dear Mr.McGee,
I had a chance to read your article about the issues
faced due to the H1B caps and the Greencard
Retrogression.("Time Is Running Out For H-1B Visa Cap
To Be Raised--Or Is It?"-Information
Week,Dt:06-Sep-06)
Thanks much for your insight about the SKILL bill.
It would be of great help if you could write more
Articles about the retrogression issues. Thousands of
unfortunate skilled workers like me have been caught
in the 'Retrogression' black hole and there is no
relief is visible in any near future.I have been
waiting for more than 5 years for my green card in
vain. We are in a state of limbo and are almost
similar to bonded laborers since our professional
mobility is very much limited.
People talk so much about the CIR and Illegal aliens
but very few people even know about the plight of the
LEGAL SKILLED workers.The retrogression has not only
affected my immediate future but it has also
negatively impacted the future of family/kids as well.
Our final hope is residing on the SKILL Bill and we
pray that it will be some how be passed in the
lame-duck session as you mentioned in your article.
Hundreds of Skilled workers like me have given up hope
already and are returning to their countries or are
looking for opportunities in other countries like
Canada etc. This also is having a significant negative
impact on US economy.
Just to give an example: Atleast 100,000 Skilled
workers are holding off the decision to buy a house
since they are not sure about their future here in US.
This amounts approximately to $30,000,000,000 (100000
X $300,000) inflow of money that could give a big
boost to the declining US Housing market.
It is sad to see that so many experienced LEGAL people
leaving this country due to immigration caps.
I kindly request you to publish a cover story on this
serious issue before the lame-duck session. I am sure
your words will have a big impact on the CEO's and
CIO's who in turn can lobby among the senators for our
cause.
Thanks again for your help so far.
Regards,
Sreekanth
krishmunn
11-30 02:32 PM
i guess it doesn't count ppl who are waiting. The no of ppl who are not able to file 485 is huge.
From the data, it seems you are right. But it is pretty confusing. If your logic is correct then once the July 2007 backlog is cleared, will they say 0 demand and then make all dates current again ??
The "demand" ideally should mean people whose 140 has been cleared and waiting to file 485 + those whose 485 has been filed and not yet processed.
From the data, it seems you are right. But it is pretty confusing. If your logic is correct then once the July 2007 backlog is cleared, will they say 0 demand and then make all dates current again ??
The "demand" ideally should mean people whose 140 has been cleared and waiting to file 485 + those whose 485 has been filed and not yet processed.
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ras
08-29 12:36 PM
I am kind of thinking of getting a template kind of system where in members can involve and put in their thoughts and once an article ( of some interest) reaches to a final stage and gets approved by the majority it would be forwarded to the news papers / Journals.
I am not sure how much time it takes, but let me try out crystallizing the thoughts towards this end.
Would be great, if few people can join me in this endeavor. PM folks/writers who wish to involve themselves in this process.
This is a process that has to evolve and please do not have expectations as to see results right away.
However, if some one is ready to take the lead.... Please take over...
I am not sure how much time it takes, but let me try out crystallizing the thoughts towards this end.
Would be great, if few people can join me in this endeavor. PM folks/writers who wish to involve themselves in this process.
This is a process that has to evolve and please do not have expectations as to see results right away.
However, if some one is ready to take the lead.... Please take over...
rajarao
12-17 12:12 PM
I traveled- chicago-frankfurt-bangalore- H1B extended but visa stamp expired. No one asked anything while going.
While coming back they checked my AP at bangalore only (Check-in, indian immigration and boarding). no one asked for it in Frankfurt.
on I-94 that they give in flight, leave the visa issuance date blank (air line crew did not understand what AP is?).
While coming back they checked my AP at bangalore only (Check-in, indian immigration and boarding). no one asked for it in Frankfurt.
on I-94 that they give in flight, leave the visa issuance date blank (air line crew did not understand what AP is?).
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bsbawa10
08-21 09:44 AM
I broke my politeness today.
My case was filed in Nebarska then tranferred to Texas then as soon as the priority date became current, last month, it was transferred to California.
I talked yesterday to customer service and it by chance got transferred to California Service Center where the officer told me that my case was transferred back to Texas Service Center on August 14, 2008. She also told me to call TSC to confirm it.
I called today the National Customer Service Center (NCSC) to confirm it and the lady tells me that the case is still in California and she has no more infomation about it. I told her about my call yesterday.
Lady: How could you have ever called CSC because their phone numbers are not public
Me: I called the same number and for some reason it got transferred to CSC.
Lady: Then you have already been told that your case has been transferred back on Aug 14, what do you need now ?
Me: The website does not show that. Plus the officer yesterday asked me to confirm it which you are not doing, you are just repeating my words about my conversation. There are so many inconsitencies . You told me just now that my case is still in California.
Lady: Can you please hold for a moment.
After hold:
Lady: I just talked to my supervisor, if the website says it is in California then it is California. Is there anything else I can help you with ?
Me: I do not understand "To speed up processing " clause in the reason to transfer it to california. It has been transferred from the center which is processing 485 applications to the center which is not processing applications. So the clause "To speed up processing" is so inconsistent.
Lady: Sir, we cannot tell you the reason why do we transfers
Me: But you have already told me the reason in the written notice as "To speed up processing"
Lady: It is not "To speed up processing " it is "for processing". Is there anything else that I can help you with ?
Me: I hang up the phone.
My case was filed in Nebarska then tranferred to Texas then as soon as the priority date became current, last month, it was transferred to California.
I talked yesterday to customer service and it by chance got transferred to California Service Center where the officer told me that my case was transferred back to Texas Service Center on August 14, 2008. She also told me to call TSC to confirm it.
I called today the National Customer Service Center (NCSC) to confirm it and the lady tells me that the case is still in California and she has no more infomation about it. I told her about my call yesterday.
Lady: How could you have ever called CSC because their phone numbers are not public
Me: I called the same number and for some reason it got transferred to CSC.
Lady: Then you have already been told that your case has been transferred back on Aug 14, what do you need now ?
Me: The website does not show that. Plus the officer yesterday asked me to confirm it which you are not doing, you are just repeating my words about my conversation. There are so many inconsitencies . You told me just now that my case is still in California.
Lady: Can you please hold for a moment.
After hold:
Lady: I just talked to my supervisor, if the website says it is in California then it is California. Is there anything else I can help you with ?
Me: I do not understand "To speed up processing " clause in the reason to transfer it to california. It has been transferred from the center which is processing 485 applications to the center which is not processing applications. So the clause "To speed up processing" is so inconsistent.
Lady: Sir, we cannot tell you the reason why do we transfers
Me: But you have already told me the reason in the written notice as "To speed up processing"
Lady: It is not "To speed up processing " it is "for processing". Is there anything else that I can help you with ?
Me: I hang up the phone.
venky321
02-24 12:53 PM
Its probably a good thing that LCA laws are being enforced. If a person hasn't gone on the bench and has a valid LCA, I don't think that person would be affected by this.
Consulting companies who adjust with the times and work to comply with the enforcement might come out of this stronger when the recession ends.
Consulting companies who adjust with the times and work to comply with the enforcement might come out of this stronger when the recession ends.
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tabletpc
11-18 04:57 PM
It�s been long since I got head ache..but today I had every reason to get.
I tried taking an appointment for h1B for December. Here is my experience�
1. After entering the receipt details it took me to available dates calendar. In this screen there was no option to pick an specific date for appointment. This screen was same as the screen we get when we check for available date without entering receipt number.
2. I pressed �Continue� and it later took me to DS156.
3. Filled the form and it took me to screen which displayed my name against a check box with 3 option. The screen says..�select the form to edit/complete..� 3 options I can see are DS156,DS157 and petition details. No matter how many times I edit the information I can�t get the choice to pick the appointment date. Basically I have filled up the form without knowing the appointment date.
4. If I try to download the appointment letter it says..�You cannot download until you specify courier address��.
Has anyone experience similar problem�?? Any work around�.??
Any help is greatly appreciated�thanks in advance�
I tried taking an appointment for h1B for December. Here is my experience�
1. After entering the receipt details it took me to available dates calendar. In this screen there was no option to pick an specific date for appointment. This screen was same as the screen we get when we check for available date without entering receipt number.
2. I pressed �Continue� and it later took me to DS156.
3. Filled the form and it took me to screen which displayed my name against a check box with 3 option. The screen says..�select the form to edit/complete..� 3 options I can see are DS156,DS157 and petition details. No matter how many times I edit the information I can�t get the choice to pick the appointment date. Basically I have filled up the form without knowing the appointment date.
4. If I try to download the appointment letter it says..�You cannot download until you specify courier address��.
Has anyone experience similar problem�?? Any work around�.??
Any help is greatly appreciated�thanks in advance�
naveenk
07-22 08:34 PM
hi all,
I am EB3 with PD April 06/ I-140 Approved / Applied I-485 and My Employer is shifting the offcice from One state to other state. Does it have any affect on my 485 petition..?? Please respond back with some information
Regards,
Naveen
I am EB3 with PD April 06/ I-140 Approved / Applied I-485 and My Employer is shifting the offcice from One state to other state. Does it have any affect on my 485 petition..?? Please respond back with some information
Regards,
Naveen
pa_arora
07-17 01:03 PM
PDF of the case-
http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/cases/2008,0711-shirmohamadali.pdf
http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/cases/2008,0711-shirmohamadali.pdf
Asian
07-18 04:57 PM
It is puzzling that EB3 World didn't move a single day. Per my calculations, it should move three months in each month.
My calcuations were based upon that there are about 100,000 applicants (excluding Indian) between year 2001 and 2005. Currently, China Mexico Philippine's cut off date is the same as ROW. I just assumed that there are about 35,000 visas available for ROW including China, Mexico, and Philipine (the remaining 10,000 for India) per year. In this case, it should move by three months in each month.
I accept that there are lots of loop holes in my calculations as it didn't move a single day.
Does anyone have a rough idea how many non Indian applicants out there between year 2001 and 2005?
I think many of you can do more accurate calculations based upon more reliable sources. Please show me how.
Many people say uselessness of predictions but I think we can predict to certain extent.
My calcuations were based upon that there are about 100,000 applicants (excluding Indian) between year 2001 and 2005. Currently, China Mexico Philippine's cut off date is the same as ROW. I just assumed that there are about 35,000 visas available for ROW including China, Mexico, and Philipine (the remaining 10,000 for India) per year. In this case, it should move by three months in each month.
I accept that there are lots of loop holes in my calculations as it didn't move a single day.
Does anyone have a rough idea how many non Indian applicants out there between year 2001 and 2005?
I think many of you can do more accurate calculations based upon more reliable sources. Please show me how.
Many people say uselessness of predictions but I think we can predict to certain extent.
smartboy75
08-14 11:56 AM
Hi All
Just wanted to share my exp as I had been to Biometric appointment yesterday.
I had an appointment @ 9:00 AM and my wife had it @ 12:00 PM...I reached at 8:15 AM and requested the staff if my wife could get her biometric done with me instead of waiting till 12:00 ...she refused....inspite of having only a handful of people she said she will only take her by 12:00 PM.....
I had my biometric done in 1 min...they took the application, asked me to confirm my name , took index finger print , took a snap and I was done....same thing for my wife....total time for both biometric 2 mins...wait 3 hrs....
Also intrestingly my wife had received an RFE for her EAD renewal.....guess what the RFE would be ???? I could not believe when I received the letter....the RFE letter was mailed on Aug 8th ..I received it in AUg 12th...it said that USCIS has not yet received my wife's biometric information and hence her case has been put in hold......the second page said pls provide the date of bimoetric appointment, ASC code , QA Review by -------- on ----------- and confirmation number if any....
Luckily for me our Appt was on Aug 13th...so I took the letter with me and showed it to the lady at the centre and she filled it out....but had a received the letter a day later...I had no clue what the heck to fill in QA review by ------ on -------- section....
What is more ridculuos is USCIS sends in the letter that they can see that biometric has not been done and hence they put my wife's case on hold.....they can very well see that the appointment is on Aug 13...so why send a letter to me asking when the Appointment is ????
What a waste of time and money....and the bigger implication is people who r working on EAD and who desparately need the EAD renewed in time have to unnecessarily go thorough the agony of having their application put in hold till the response is sent..when time is so crutial. If this unnecessary delay causes the EAD renewal to take more that 90 days, it is again the risk of loosing employment or salary for the applicant....
Anyways, I have filled out and mailed the respose to RFE today and hopefully they should process the application now...
Thought I should share my exp for all those who may receive same letters in the future......Hope this helps....
Just wanted to share my exp as I had been to Biometric appointment yesterday.
I had an appointment @ 9:00 AM and my wife had it @ 12:00 PM...I reached at 8:15 AM and requested the staff if my wife could get her biometric done with me instead of waiting till 12:00 ...she refused....inspite of having only a handful of people she said she will only take her by 12:00 PM.....
I had my biometric done in 1 min...they took the application, asked me to confirm my name , took index finger print , took a snap and I was done....same thing for my wife....total time for both biometric 2 mins...wait 3 hrs....
Also intrestingly my wife had received an RFE for her EAD renewal.....guess what the RFE would be ???? I could not believe when I received the letter....the RFE letter was mailed on Aug 8th ..I received it in AUg 12th...it said that USCIS has not yet received my wife's biometric information and hence her case has been put in hold......the second page said pls provide the date of bimoetric appointment, ASC code , QA Review by -------- on ----------- and confirmation number if any....
Luckily for me our Appt was on Aug 13th...so I took the letter with me and showed it to the lady at the centre and she filled it out....but had a received the letter a day later...I had no clue what the heck to fill in QA review by ------ on -------- section....
What is more ridculuos is USCIS sends in the letter that they can see that biometric has not been done and hence they put my wife's case on hold.....they can very well see that the appointment is on Aug 13...so why send a letter to me asking when the Appointment is ????
What a waste of time and money....and the bigger implication is people who r working on EAD and who desparately need the EAD renewed in time have to unnecessarily go thorough the agony of having their application put in hold till the response is sent..when time is so crutial. If this unnecessary delay causes the EAD renewal to take more that 90 days, it is again the risk of loosing employment or salary for the applicant....
Anyways, I have filled out and mailed the respose to RFE today and hopefully they should process the application now...
Thought I should share my exp for all those who may receive same letters in the future......Hope this helps....
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